Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
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Thanks. Im looking at "RP04 Second filing of a document previously delivered" From Company House. There is only 150 million share . Ordinary share.. Is the rest 50 million A ?
Then explain the multiplication? Is that A offer you can share .
Its feels like a kind of scam this just now .. Now is Subgene AI worth "7 532 MSEK" The old shares are not tradeble yet?
November 25/26 is everything finish for trading. Is there any Lock Up on any Ordinary share?
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
Yes the ordinary shares have a lock Up. 3 months for the fist 5 %, 4 months for the second 5%...and the last 55% in 9 months
#1638
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
Ellos hicieron una ampliación de capital de 50 millones de acciones hace unos meses si. De esos 200 millones antiguos...salen los 1000 millones de ahora aproximadamente
#1639
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
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Ok.. But i dont really understand the difference about your old and the new share on Stockholm market . Do this old shares stay ? So there will be 700 million shares ? 200 old and 500 new and there is A Lock Up.. OR If there is only 300 M shares without Lock Up..? Thats is A big difference.
Mine share is price today 0.014 .. After reverse split 14 SEK .. Next week. Then if your price is 1 Euro.. 1 Euro is around 11SEK
#1640
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
El precio del reverse Split es 0.0021 o 2.1 sek después del contrasplit. 2.1 sek equivalen a 0.20 euros..por eso se pasa de 200 millones de acciones a 1000 millones. 500 tipo a y 500 ordinarias. Lo que cotice en el.mercado, ahora cerca de 15 sek después del contrasplit, es otro tema. Por lógica pensamos que no tiene sentido que cotice tan alta, debería cotizar cerca de 0.0021sek y cotiza a 0.0145. 7 veces más caro. Se valora ahora mismo subgen en 1400 millones de euro. Mucho más de la valoración actual de la compañía.
#1641
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
I'll explain better: Subgen originally had 150 million shares, but a debt from its spin-off from the parent company—the parent company was Substrate. That debt, 21.5 million euros, has been converted into 50 million shares, which is why it went from 150 million shares to 200 million shares. Substrate does not have a lock-up on its shares. To balance the price, based on the 200 million valuation, our shares have been multiplied by 5, but the economic value is the same. Our 200 million shares will become about 1,000 million Subgen shares in the future, which is equivalent to 98% of Subgen, and then another 2% will be held by Magnasense. What they are going to do is sell you the Substrate shares while making you think we all have a lock-up, but Substrate doesn't, and afterwards the shareholders (INSIDERS) will start selling. First they will sell their Ordinary shares, and then they will sell their Class A shares. In the meantime, they will surely hit you with some capital increase with an agency like a death spiral, such as Atlas. And you might ask why I am telling you all this. Because in Spain we already know them; they are sellers of dreams (smoke). You only have to look at the semiannual reports of both companies. The money they get from selling Substrate's shares—those 50 million shares in your market, and possibly a bit more from the percentage they already held, almost 20%—will serve to cover the black holes in SUBSTRATE, and afterwards that money will go to SUBGEN in the form of R&D projects. You have to start from the basis that SUBSTRATE was the parent company, they distributed SUBGEN 'for free', and the insiders sold their SUBSTRATE shares to SUBGEN, effectively turning the latter into the parent company."
Inversor de alto riesgo.
#1642
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
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Ok.. That Pdf have I seen . Thanks . So the difference is only because the value of the exchange in Swedish - Euro. Thats makes it many more shares in Sweden.. 1 billion shares then A reverse split. 1000:1 .
#1643
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
What you Swedes don't understand—and I've been to many Swedish forums, where you debate the RTO and the risk-benefit equation—is who you are risking your money with. You don't know those people; we do. Those executives are going to tell you, through PowerPoint presentations and a lot of 'smoke' (hype), what the company is supposedly going to earn in the future, while in the meantime they will bombard you with capital increases, all while they sell their overpriced shares.
Inversor de alto riesgo.
#1644
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
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Yes .. my feelings too .. This is just A scam too give A share Moore profit.
#1645
Re: Accionistas de SUBGEN AI LTD y Afectados por el Canje en Magnasense (SUBGEN AI AB).
That information is incorrect. I explained it in this forum a couple of weeks ago; it's a cache issue—the servers kept the old information. The information that was provided to your operator indicates that we all have a lock-up, except for SUBSTRATE's shares. Those 50 million shares I told you about. The information is in the private contracts provided to your stock broker/manager. All of us have to sign the lock-up agreement for the shares to be listed. You are Swedish, you can ask the company for the information. I have tried, but I don't even know how to start in Swedish. Your operator enforces the lock-up; that wouldn't be logical, so I was browsing the cache, on the page copies. I insist again, you don't know who those people are. We have known them for 3 years, and except for the 'hype men' (or 'pumpers'), you won't hear anyone speak well of them. I have analyzed all their reports, and all their supposed profits are R&D developments that never materialize into money, so they live off capital increases. If you check our operator, you will see that we have more capital increases underway. And the same thing is going to happen to you. Smoke, smoke, and more smoke.