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¿Qué pasa con los chinos? Shibor

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#3

Re: ¿Qué pasa con los chinos? Shibor

Es que el tio saca unas graficas tan raras que normal que el mercado caiga.
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“Los dos guerreros más poderosos son paciencia y tiempo.” (León Tolstoi)

#4

Re: ¿Qué pasa con los chinos? Shibor

En el fondo a los niños les gusta el demonio:)

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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/chinese-1-and-2-week-shibor-rates-surge-over-9-highest-2007

CHINA IS ABOUT TO SUFFER THE MOTHER OF ALL BANKING CRISIS

It is ironic that as China is demanding greater control of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, just as the nation’s banking system is about to be devastated by the white hot flames of inflation.

From a distance, China’s economy seems to be the poster child of sustainable growth. Recent government reports show the economy expanding by 9.7%, retail sales up a blistering 17.4%, foreign reserves at $3 trillion, and inflation only 5.4%. But these statistics mask a dark side, Chinese communist authorities have been artificially holding down fierce inflationary pressures by subsidizing consumer prices. Over the last six months the government artificially restricted increases in retail food prices to 11%, while wholesale commodity food prices have jumped by 35%. In the last two months the government capped retail gasoline price increases at 10%, even as Middle East turmoil caused crude oil prices to leap by over 30%.

Most Americans believe that the secret-weapon of the “China Economic Miracle” has been currency manipulation of Chinese yuan’s exchange rate with the U.S. dollar. In the past two years as Asian economies and foreign exchange reserves expanded dramatically, the yuan gained only 4.6% versus the dollar. This modest rise compares currency gains of 31% for the Indonesian rupiah, 22% for the South Korean won, and 21%for the Singapore dollar. China has subsidized its exporters by recycling its export earnings back into over-valued U.S. dollars. The strategy makes China’s exports more competitive, but at the cost of spiking inflation at home.

The less known and far more important secret-weapon of the “China Economic Miracle” is the absolute control of the banking industry by China’s four largest state-owned banks (“SOB”); Industrial and Commercial Bank, Agricultural Bank, People’s Bank of China and Construction. Since the government does not provide adequate social welfare programs and restricts its citizen’s investment options to bank accounts, about 40% of Chinese household income is deposited in SOBs each month. The SOBs then leverage the deposits by ten times and loan 75% of this massive amount of cash at extremely low interest rates to state-owned enterprises (“SOE”). The other 25% of lending is allocated to real estate development.

China is no stranger to bankers making risky loans to communist party officials and their crony real estate developers. During the Asian Financial Crisis of the mid-1990s, it is estimated that 40% of all SOB loans were non-performing and most were written off. The Chinese paid for the SOB losses with a 76% devaluation of their currency that crushed the people’s buying-power by 76%. From 1997 to 2004 Chinese frivolous lending was somewhat restrained, but since 2003 the bureaucrats have mandated a massive expansion of lending. In comparison to the U.S. and Europe where bank lending is flat, SOBs have been expanding loans by 25% annually.

With inflation fears rising and bank leverage at an all-time high, the Chinese authorities just began to raise interest rates and instruct SOBs to slow the growth of lending to avoid another banking crisis. Outsiders have no idea what percent of SOB loans to SOEs over the last seven years are already non-performing, but the China Economic Miracle for real estate is quickly turning into a horrendous nightmare. Quoting from CNN Market News "Prices of new homes in China's capital plunged 26.7% month-on-month in March, the Beijing News reported Tuesday, citing data from the city's Housing and Urban-Rural Development Commission." The cumulative plunge in real estate prices in China’s capital this year is 34% and similar losses are being reported in fast growing Hangzhou near Shanghai.

The Chinese officials like to present an image of their population as very industrious, but also stoic and reserved. But with the real estate bubble bursting, banks stuffed with non-performing loans, interest rates rising and inflation raging, the flames of social protest may soon ignite. Fitch Ratings just lowered China’s AA- sovereign credit rating to “negative” from “stable”; citing a “high likelihood of a significant deterioration” in banks’ asset quality within three years. Credit rating agencies also like to present a stoic and reserved image; but this eloquent language is actually code words for “duck and cover”.

China may have achieved the fastest economic growth in world history, but that growth has been powered by currency manipulation and an exponential growth of risky bank lending. The Chinese authorities have been shielding their citizens from the inflationary effect of their strategies through subsidies paid for with more bank lending. Now that inflation is out of control and the Chinese government to trying to shrink lending; the mother of all banking crisis is looming!

#6

Re: ¿Qué pasa con los chinos? Shibor

Sube tipos de interés, el que puede.
Aquí en USA y Europa, el mercado es dócil y está amaljamegado (de jamelgo) y no aguantaría que le tiraran de las riendas como al potro chino.
Lo que tú ves como debilidad, yo lo veo como fortaleza.
En una carrera, entre el potro y el jamelgo, yo apostaría por el potro, por muy salvaje que esté.
El oro en el que inviertes, está respaldado por la fuerte demanda china.

Un saludo

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Coincido contigo en que algo no está bien en el sector bancario chino, y que el comportamiento del shibor es extremadamente aberrante. Si algo así estuviera pasando en Europa sería portada de todos los periódicos y estaríamos acojonados.

Lo que no estoy tan seguro es en las repercusiones que vaya a tener. China va camino de un aterrizaje duro, por la sencilla razón de que los aterrizajes suaves no existen, que yo sepa nunca ha habido uno. Pero no tiene por qué ser ahora, podría ser dentro de uno o dos años. Las repercusiones que ello pueda tener para nosotros cuando suceda, lo desconozco. Habrá que verlo desde la distancia, aunque siendo China uno de nuestros principales proveedores y uno de nuestros principales compradores de deuda, es seguro que habrá repercusiones.

En cualquier caso hay que estar fuera de China. Paulson acaba de tener una buena lección de lo caro que puede salir el invertir en China, habiendo perdido 500 millones de $ de su fondo en el fraude de shino forest.

Y en cuanto a esa gráfica que has puesto, para mí no significa nada. En 2008 el shibor se movía en concierto con una crisis de liquidez del sistema bancario mundial. Me niego a creer que el intervenido sistema bancario chino sea indicador adelantado de nada

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